Steve goes to Houston, Texas to meet with environmental scientist and professional engineer, John Loper. Steve discusses his experience litigating environmental insurance coverage cases and discusses the issues involved in those cases. Complex litigation often involves experts and Steve discusses various issues related to experts with Mr. Loper. Like Judge Hull in episode one, John plays – and loses – a game and explains why he does not think Indian curry is a pollutant! Finally, the two discuss various aspects of complex litigation and its impact on resolution strategies, including mediation.